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Taylor Swift on Fame and Feeling Washed Up at 22
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On red, there was a song that I wrote
alone in a hotel room when I was 22 years old called Nothing New. Where I'm...
It sounds ridiculous, but at 22 years old, I felt completely washed up.
I felt like maybe the only thing that made me special was that I was this like
teen, phenom, whatever I was. Looked at us.
So I wrote this song and it includes lines like, you know,
how can a person know everything at 18 and
nothing at 22?
Because when I was 18, I had the fearless album come out and I had my first international number ones.
And everybody was like, oh, this writing, it's so true. It's so honest.
She feels like she deserves to be here.
And then there was this big upheaval of, no, she doesn't. No, she doesn't.
She sucks, actually.
And it really turned the tables on my perception
of love can be so quickly handed to you and then taken away.
And it's this kind of strange thing with fame.
And that was the first time I ever grappled with that.
Somebody was like, oh, you're 22 years old and you're saying, are you tired of me?
If you're not yet, are you going to get tired of me?
Because it's usually something that you would sing about later in life.
But the entertainment industry, I'll tell you, there's 10 years for every year you're in it.
But it's fun.
Songwriting is something that it's a very
intimate, tiny little thing for me.
I have a lot of things I like to do.
I like to bake.
I like to make art.
I like to paint.
I like to sew.
I like to write songs.
And I try to keep it as like dear to me as those other things I just named.
I have to know that like there's certain things that we have as a tradition between me and my fans.
They love for an emotional song to be track five.
There's like special things like that, but at the same time, there's
sort of so many of them now, which is great.
But there's corners of my fan base who are gonna take things to a really extreme place.
There's nothing I can do about that.
There's people who are going to try to do detective work figure out the details.
Who is that about what is this?
When it gets a little bit weird for me is when people act like it's a paternity test.
This song's about that person, because I'm like, that dude didn't
write the song I did.
But that's part of it.
You have to hold tight to your perception of your
art and your relationship with it.
And then you just kind of have to like, there it goes.
Hope you like it.
If you don't now, hope you do on five years.
And if you never do, then I was doing it for me anyway.
Yeah, criticism has been a huge fuel for me.
It's been a huge jumping off point, like a creative writing prompt or something.
There are so many songs in my career that would not exist, like blank space,
would not exist if I hadn't
had people being like, here's a slideshow of all her boyfriend's.
And then anti-hero is a song that I'm so proud of still.
That song doesn't exist if I don't get criticized for
every aspect of my personality that people have a problem with
or whatever.
My favorite thing when I sit down with new artists or songwriters and I'm like, Why
are you reading your comments?
That's too much of it.
You're inundating yourself with too much criticism that doesn't really have a focus.
But I think a little bit of it, you gotta just be like, this is part of it.
Don't make this, make you stop
writing or make you edit yourself or whatever.
If it's an interesting point to you to respond to,
then that's a gift for you to be able to write
something, maybe you wouldn't have written something that day.
God, don't go to the notes app and post it, write about it.
Make art about this.
Don't respond to trolls in your comments.